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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

It occurs to me that another book you'd probably find it profitable (ha) to engage with is Cory Doctorow's _Walkaway_. It is fiction, and the author succumbs, IMO, to the typical temptation of the message-fiction author to put his thumb on the scale in favor of his "side" and give them an implausible degree of success and luck. But it's the most elaborate attempt I know to flesh out what tech-enabled local economic independence could look like, and is worth looking at just to spark thought about what pieces might actually be workable in our lifetimes.

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I really enjoyed this. I would quibble over several defintions, theoretical frameworks regarding the framing of capitalism, communism and socialism but tomato, tomata, Blurred lines.

-'Frase draws up a two-by-two matrix, with abundance versus scarcity as one dimension, and equality versus hierarchy as the other.'

This framing is spot on. I don't agree with the economic/societal philosophies that get you there.

-'clean energy that can carry us past the dangers of climate change to the expanded possibilities of cheap energy abundance (though he curiously neglects to mention either nuclear or geothermal options); asteroid mining, made possible by plummeting launch costs, that can render scarcity of key mineral resources a distant memory; gene editing, anti-aging therapies, and AI diagnostics that can greatly extend lifespans while reorienting medicine toward relatively cheaper prevention and cures and away from the expensive management of chronic conditions; '

This is my capitalistic with socialist tendencies, tehncocratic scientifc dream!

-' It has degenerated into a vehicle for upward redistribution of wealth and income that actually worsens the climate for innovation by making protected ideas less accessible to downstream innovators.'

I agree and disagree with this. It speaks to the the fundamental drivers of people. Excellent work should be incentivized, even if temporarily. It creates a richer culture and heritage. From art to science. Communism will always go by way of dominance hierarchies because that's fundamentally how people are hardwired.

-'the other side of that coin is likely to be an organized capitalist system that relies more heavily on public investment.'

I tend toward this framing. People just don't give up power. Even egalitarian so called communists. We are only a 100 years, if that, out of tribalism and I'm sure there are evolutionary reasons for that.

- And in a world where AI is giving states ever greater powers to track, control, and manipulate their populations, keeping the masters benevolent over the long run strikes me as a dicey proposition for humanity as a whole (even if particular polities can pull it off).

Most economics theories fail to practically discuss the role of women, family, children in these scenarios. That's millennia long, perhaps longer, free labor. Marx is an utter failure in this regard so I wonder why so many minority women/women in general flock to these ideas.

Thanks so much for this post.

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